I just let my brother drive my truck with his friend alone

"Denver Is Stuck In The 90s" (denver80222)
11/23/2014 at 23:41 • Filed to: None

He said he'd top off the tank with 87. Good or bad Idea? He stalled it on his way out BTW.

I wont have my license for a week (assuming I pass (I will)) and Im trying to save my money. My brother has his license and is manning the bike service dept at CU boulder, so he has cash.

DISCUSSION (44)

Thunderface > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:44

probably

ly2v8-Brian > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:45

yes

JGrabowMSt > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:45

You've made a grave mistake.

Also, he's going to fill it with regular? Really? None of my cars get that crap....

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > JGrabowMSt
11/23/2014 at 23:46

Well, Regular here is 85. I told him to fill up with premium (87)

CPT Speedbump > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:47

Is it snowing there or is this a older picture? Windy as f here -.-

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:47

I only put regular in mine. It's an early 90's V6, it isn't really hurting anything. Unless you need that extra 3 hp...

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > CPT Speedbump
11/23/2014 at 23:48

That pic is from this afternoon. It stopped snowing and I brushed the snow off her about an hour ago.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/23/2014 at 23:48

I dont trust 85 on the injectors, thats why 87

Dsscats > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:49

Jesus, premium is only 87!?!? Here it's 91 and that's still low!

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Dsscats
11/23/2014 at 23:50

91 is super premium here. Its because of the altitude I believe

03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:50

Personally I wouldn't let my brother or friends drive my car. I don't trust many people with it. It's so hard for me to hand over the keys if I'm getting new tires or an oil change. And knowing my friends, they would manage to destroy the car. With the way they treat their cars I would be replacing tires and a clutch.

But as long as your brother doesn't drive like an idiot, it'll be fine. I'm just way over protective. He should hopefully get used to your clutch quickly. And if he's getting gas for you it's even better!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:51

I have never seen 85... 87 is regular to me. Either way, it probably isn't going to hurt anything. I would run it if it saved me a bit. It's not like it's a state of the art, complex, fragile injection system. It's a Ranger. My cousin nearly ran his out of oil after pushing 30k between oil changes. It's still running strong at nearly 400k miles.

CPT Speedbump > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:52

Alright, it snowed for a entire 10 seconds at one point here this afternoon, I was pissed because I was out in the wind already replacing my throttle return spring on the Yota...but I fixed it :D now it stopped sticking partially open, lol.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/23/2014 at 23:52

Mine is 0nly at 104k miles, and I want it to last another 104k. So this thing is gonna be pampered

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:55

To be fair, he bought it with 220k from the original owner and the thing looked brand new. It had one dent, and it was the size of a dime. The interior was also spotless. It is literally none of that now.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > 03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST
11/23/2014 at 23:56

Ive seen my brother drive it, hes just as bad with a manual as I am. And its not like I could drive it anytime this week. So at least its getting driven. I dont trust his auto driving habits, but hes too out of his element with a manual to do anything crazy. At this point I trust him, once he becomes more capable with a stick that opinion may change.

JGrabowMSt > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/23/2014 at 23:57

Well, to value your motor, try like, 89 and up. I don't care about the debate of whether it's better mileage or not, its a cleaner burn in the cylinder.

I have never seen a pump offer any less than 87....what a ripoff.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > JGrabowMSt
11/23/2014 at 23:58

Its hard to find 89 here. Its mostly 85, 87 and 91. And Im not paying 91 prices when 87 is below $3 a gallon

JGrabowMSt > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 00:01

Yeah, but once the motor starts a knockin.....

03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 00:12

Well, then the only thing you have to worry about is the clutch! Which is kind of an expensive thing to worry about... Is it a heavy clutch? I've been told trucks tend to have heavy clutches. Then again, the Ranger is a light truck so that may be different.

Big Bubba Ray > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 00:13

Thats insane that premium is 87 there! Thats regular in St. Louis. 93 is premium round these parts. Thank jesus its under $3 a gallon right now.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > JGrabowMSt
11/24/2014 at 00:17

My ranger will take 87. I'm not too worried

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Big Bubba Ray
11/24/2014 at 00:18

We don't even get 93

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > 03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST
11/24/2014 at 00:18

It's a brand new clutch. Replaced in September, I'm not too worried And it's very heavy

Big Bubba Ray > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 00:23

Damn. How much is per gallon of the good stuff?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Big Bubba Ray
11/24/2014 at 00:24

Right now 91 is $3 on the dot

wabbalosthiskey > JGrabowMSt
11/24/2014 at 00:28

No it's not. Octane the measurement of resistance to detonation - that is, how easy it ignites. The higher the octane rating, it is literally harder to ignite and burn, meaning that if the characteristics of your engine do not require it, you are actually costing yourself efficiency by running it. This translates to less power and less mileage for any given amount of fuel, and has absolutely nothing to do with "clean" burning.

The difference between gasoline brands and the only difference between them is the additives and detergents. That still doesn't make it burn any "cleaner" but can make the fuel act as a solvent of sorts and not build up behind the combustion chamber as much (the usual intake valve comparisons you see on pumps), and is completely unrelated to octane and has nothing to do with efficiency.

Ducky > JGrabowMSt
11/24/2014 at 00:33

i seriously doubt you'll get engine knock from a low ass compression ranger motor

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > JGrabowMSt
11/24/2014 at 01:25

wabbalosthiskey is right. At the 5-6k foot elevation mark 87 is plenty for just about everything.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 01:27

I wouldn't worry about it. I used to run 85 in things that made more power with higher tech than your ranger when I lived in Wyoming. Never had a problem.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > wabbalosthiskey
11/24/2014 at 01:27

Seconded.

03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 01:29

A whole new clutch, that's great. Saves you quite a bit of money. Just remember, if that new clutch hasn't been broken in yet (500 miles of easy driving) then you need to be careful with it.

I didn't think that clutch would be so heavy. But it's something you get used to.

promoted by the color red > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 02:12

To be honest, you're only saving at most a dollar per tankful running regular over premium. But if your truck runs well on whatever you're putting in it, then hey, more power to you!

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > 03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST
11/24/2014 at 03:02

The clutch is 1000 miles old, its mostly broken in

Übel > wabbalosthiskey
11/24/2014 at 03:03

Thank you for saying this. I almost split my head open I face-palmed so hard reading some of these comments.

Fred Smith > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 03:05

It's a Ranger. Chances are, the previous owner put 85 in it.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Fred Smith
11/24/2014 at 03:08

I have comprehensive records going back to new, no he did not

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 07:59

Whats the issue with the injectors? My understanding is that at higher altitudes, the lower octane is used as knock becomes less likely due to the lower air pressure.

tromoly > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 08:49

You'll be fine, I run 87 in my similar year Ranger.

Nibbles > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/24/2014 at 09:23

The only time 85 won't be just perfectly fine in the truck is our atrocious winter blends here. You'll notice a bit of knock and ping, that's when you switch up to mid (87). FUN FACT: Here at elevation, 85 octane performs the same as 87 octane down at sea level. Vehicles made to run on 87 (regular) octane (check your manual! It's right there ) drink 85 here.

There is absolutely not one single reason why you should ever need to put premium (89-91) in that truck, at least factory spec. If you add a turbo or super, sure, but as it sits? 85 all day long.

Except right now

Because winter blend has come

Use 87

Nibbles > JGrabowMSt
11/24/2014 at 09:23

At elevation, our 85 is others' 87. That truck is made to run on regular octane gas and will do just fine with it.

CPT Speedbump > JGrabowMSt
11/24/2014 at 23:09

We're over a mile in altitude, 85 and 91 make virtually zero difference aside from the size of the hole in our wallets.

Übel > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/25/2014 at 14:12

Comprehensive fuel records? What?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Übel
11/25/2014 at 14:18

Yup:

Kinja'd!!!

Previous owner was anal about record keeping. I have return receipt for a faulty fuel filter purchased in 2005